Designing a Baritone Guitar (Part III)

To the reader:

The following posts are part of a project that I completed in December of 2008 in which I designed and built a baritone guitar. I looked at existing designs and tried to correct the problems that I found with the available commercial production instruments. The end result was a great guitar that exceeded my aesthetic expectations and met my utilitarian requirements. The original paper from the project is 40 pages long, so I am breaking the work up into installments. Please note that the design of the guitar, the shape of the body, the neck and the headstock are all trademarks of Indecent Music. I do not consent to my ideas being used for commercial purposes, but I would be happy to talk to or help anyone that is interested in building an instrument for themselves. I am reviewing my options for Patents and the design of the instrument should be considered protected by the Patent Pending status. Thanks so much for your interest!

Hendrik David Gideonse XIX

4 Designing the Baritone Guitar

Based on my experiences with the production models that I tried, I resolved to design an instrument that did not fall prey to the pitfalls mentioned above. I would optimize the scale length and string gauges to provide for a firm but comfortable amount of string tension. Learning from bass designs, I would shift the strings towards the tail of the instrument by moving the bridge away from the neck and closer to the tail.

4.1 Woods, Tone and Rigidity

Electric guitars are nearly always made of hardwoods from a small number of deciduous species from around the world. Acoustic instruments, however, use resonating tops made of coniferous species like spruce and cedar. The most popular woods for electric guitar building are rock maple (also known as hard or sugar maples), mahogany (a tropical exotic hardwood native to the West Indies, Central and South America), alder, swamp/white ash (both native to North America), or rosewood and ebony (both exotic hardwoods becoming hard to find).
Each of these woods has its own tonal characteristics as well as grain type, grain figure, hardness and rigidity. According to Warmoth Direct Guitars [14], mahogany is the warmest of the neck woods, while maple is the brightest with the most defined high frequencies. Honduran mahogany is the wood used for Gibson guitars™ necks and bodies, while hard maple is the wood typically used in Fender necks. Body woods are often slightly less dense and softer to allow for a lighter instrument. Swamp ash, which is very popular with Fender bodies, is a softer, lighter variety compared to Northern hard ash which is harder and heavier. Alder, basswood and poplar are all slightly softer woods commonly used in body construction as well [15].
I opted to use swamp ash for the body because it would cut down on the weight of the instrument and would still provide a tone in between the warmth of mahogany and the brightness of maple. Ash has a natural rustic feel to it, even when sanded with 200 grit paper and it is an open-grained wood, which means the grain has deep pores that must be filled in order to get a smooth finish.

Figure 8 A close-up of swamp ash grain
A close-up of swamp ash grain

For the neck, I chose rock maple, which unlike swamp ash, has a closed grain and can be sanded almost as smooth as a polished rock or buffed steel. The neck is the part of the instrument that will be touched the most, and the feel of this critical part affects the player’s impression of the instrument as a whole. I also used purpleheart in the lamination of the neck blank mostly because of its striking color, but also to tone down the brightness of the maple.

The fingerboard is glued to the top of the neck over the truss rod and the frets are pressed into the fingerboard. I chose to make the fingerboard from macassar ebony which is a figured ebony with visible grain varying from black to browns and tans.
The lamination technique that I used is very similar to the style shown on the Ibanez bass above. I ripped three pieces of hard maple to ¾ by 1 and 2 pieces of purpleheart to ¾” by ¼” and then glued all five of the pieces together as shown in Figure 10. I made sure that I reversed the grain pattern for each piece to try to create the most stable neck blank possible. The notch cut down the length of the neck for the truss rod is centered on the middle piece of maple, so that the truss rod will not disrupt the various laminations.

Figure 9 A close-up of purpleheart and hard maple
A close-up of purpleheart and hard maple

Figure 10 5-piece neck blank lamination method with 3 1″ pieces of rock maple and 2 ¼” pieces of purpleheart.
5-piece neck lamination method

4.2 Angled Headstock and ˜V™ Neck Contour

The shape of the neck is another critical part of the design process that affects string tension, sustain and the feel of the instrument. The traditional method of the headstock configuration is the angled back headstock used in all string instruments from lutes, violins and viols, as well as guitars. This angle increases the pressure of the strings on the string nuts and eliminates the use of a string tree to hold the string down onto the headstock as required by the Fender instruments. Angles from 10° to 15° are common and I opted for 15° as it was an easy multiple of 90°.

Figure 11 A 3D rendering of the neck blank with a 15° angled headstock and radiused fingerboard
3-D rendering of the neck blank

Figure 12 A different angle of the neck blank before carving with guides to show where the frets will be installed
A different angle of the neck blank

The neck back contour is the shape of the neck as cut laterally through the neck. Historically guitars have used either a ‘C’ or a ‘U’ shape, but Fender pioneered the ‘V’ neck shape which optimizes the player’s ability to wrap his or her thumb round the neck of the instrument. The ‘V’ has been popular particularly with blues and country musicians. It makes playing open chords easier and more comfortable and is particularly useful for instruments with a longer scale like basses and baritones.

Figure 13 A comparison of the standard ‘C’ neck contour (black) with two more ‘V’ shaped contours [16]
Comparison of neck contours

I chose to use a slightly stronger ‘V’ shape than the two designs above because I was planning on tapering from the ‘V’ at the first fret to the flatter ‘C’ shaped neck by the 12th fret to make it easier to play single notes and bar chords. The Figure below shows the shape of the neck at the first fret.

Figure 14 The neck contour for the baritone at the 1st fret
Neck contour for the baritone at the 1st fret

4.3 Headstock Shapes

My design goal for the headstock was to use the least amount of wood possible, but still allow the strings to remain straight as they travel from the nut to the tuning machines. A smaller headstock weighs less and does not affect the balance of the guitar as much as a larger headstock.
The three-top, three-bottom (3+3) traditional symmetrical headstock used on early acoustic instruments and later adopted by Gibson, causes the strings to bend outward from the nut to the tuning spindle on the tuning machine. This can lead to problems of the string binding at the nut and intermittently slipping, causing tuning problems and unnecessary string breakage. The 3+3 style headstock is more user-friendly however, in that it is easier to feel which machine the player is tuning on dark stages while still maintaining eye contact with the audience or the panel of a digital tuner.
The design goal of a small headstock, in the 3+3 configuration, is difficult to achieve because the tuning machines on a symmetrical headstock bump into each other if they’re not offset. This is further complicated by the desire to maintain a straight angle from the string from the nut to the winder. Figure 15 below shows the many different iterations of the headstock that I went through to find a design that was both visually appealing and effective at maintaining straight string runs while allowing for the tuning machines not to touch. The center and lower right mockups became the actual headstock in my design.

Figure 15 Various iterations of headstock designs from the earliest to the latest
Various iterations of the headstock designs

The first prototype of the headstock was the upper left model. The symmetry was appealing, but the tuning machines would not fit so close together on the top holes, for strings 3 and 4. The second version to the right offset locations of the machines slightly, but the tuning machines still butted against each other. The next two designs, upper right and bottom left, solved the issue of tuning machine spacing, but they were quite unattractive. Figure 16 below shows the final contour of the tuning machines super-imposed through the surface of the headstock.

Figure 16 The final headstock design with tuning machines super-imposed on surface.
The final headstock design

The final design offset the machines substantially and added the style of an inverted Fender shape to balance the large hips on the body of the instrument. The final touch is the purpleheart cover over the truss-rod adjustment notch. The headstock was successful both in the elimination of extra bends in the string and in providing aesthetic balance to the instrument.

Figure 17 Photo of the baritone’s headstock from the front
A photo of the baritone's headstock from the front

Figure 18 Photo of the baritone’s headstock from the back
A photo of the headstock from the back

4.4 Joining the Neck to the Body

The neck joint is the critical connection through which vibrations travel from the nut to the bridge of the instrument. A poor neck joint will decrease vibrations and reduce the volume and sustain of notes as well as causing an unstable playing experience. The worst example of this is a bolt-on type neck where the neck pocket is routed too largely for the neck, allowing the player to torque the screws loose while playing. Over time this could lead to the screws or even the neck breaking.
There are three joint options for the custom guitar builder: bolt-on (actually uses screws), mortise and tenon glued or set neck, and neck-through where the neck continues all the way through the body of the instrument.
The bolt-on neck is the simplest method of attachment and also the least expensive, but is rarely used for custom guitars. The advantages of the bolt-on neck include non-destructive neck replacement and faster manufacturing because gluing time is eliminated. The primary disadvantage is that the bolt-on connection is often not as rigid as a set-neck or a neck through design, which are said to have increased sustain due to the improved mechanical connection between the body and the neck. The vast majority of bolt-on necks use Fender’s original measurements for the neck pocket: 2 3/16″ wide, 3″ long and 5/8″ deep.
The second type of neck joint is the mortise and tenon, also known as the set neck. In short, this is a glued neck joint that uses increased surface area to create a stronger connection between the neck and the body. The mortise is the neck pocket and the tenon (the end of the neck) is inserted into the mortise. Great care is taken to ensure that the joint has a high tolerance and that the joint will hold simply with pressure before the joint is glued.
This particular style of joint has been used to connect necks on string instrument bodies for hundreds of years. Instruments in the viol, violin, and classical guitar families all share the same neck join, which also includes the subset of the dove-tail neck joint. The classical guitars have a neck that is parallel to the top of the body, while the violin family has necks that tilt back from the face of the instrument. This angle increases the pressure on the bridge of the instrument and thus improves the length of the sustain of the instrument. The tilt-back angle (usually 2° To 3°) of the neck requires a taller bridge to prevent the string action from being too low.
In addition to the neck angle, often this style of guitar includes an angled headstock as well. The angle serves to increase the pressure of the strings on the nut and eliminates the need for a string tree to hold the strings down to work well with the tuning machines. A great example of this type of guitar in the Gibson Les Paul, which is a solid body guitar that borrows heavily from the look of arch-topped hollow body instruments like violins and viols.
The third style of guitar neck joint is the neck-through style. This construction technique actually is not a neck joint at all. The wood of the neck continues through the body of the guitar in one continuous piece. Les Paul™s œLog guitar was probably the first neck-through instrument. This type of design was originally found more often in electric basses than in guitars, but now many models of both are available. Body wings are attached to the neck core to obtain the traditional shape of the guitar. The pickups and bridge all are mounted into the neck piece, which contributes to increased sustain.
Most neck-through instruments do not have the angled back neck that requires a higher bridge. This may counteract the improved sustain of the neck-through design by decreasing pressure on the bridge and nut of the instrument. The neck-through body design is more complicated to build and manufacture than either the bolt-on or set neck styles. As a result, most neck-through designs come from higher-end instrument manufacturers and small custom luthier shops.
I chose the mortise and tenon set-neck option because I was interested in an extremely strong rigid joint, but did not want to give up the warmth of a full swamp ash body. In my design (see Figure 19 below), I allowed for a neck width of 2 3/16, but during construction opted for a slightly wider neck at the body around 2 5/16. In the Figure below you can see both the routing for the neck to fit into the instrument and the template on the left that was used as a guide to route the pocket accurately.

Figure 19 A router template and the neck pocket routed out of the body
A router template and the neck pocket routed out of the body

Figure 20 A 3-D view of the baritone body showing the neck pocket dimensions
3-D rendering of the baritone body

4.5 Body Shape

The body of the guitar makes up the bulk of the size and weight of the instrument and is the part of the instrument that rests against the body and determines the balance of the instrument, both in seated and standing positions.
I designed my instrument with the traditional 20 frets to avoid the need for a large cut-away. I positioned the bridge of the instrument towards the tail to move the entire length of the strings to the right, bringing the first position closer to me. I also created a full-sized top horn to position the top strap button at the 11th fret ensuring a comfortable playing position even with a longer neck of 27 ½.”
The unusual body carving has given the baritone its distinctive look. Some of the carving is merely ornamental, like the ‘S’ curve connecting the top horn to the bottom hip of the guitar, but other features of the carving are designed to make it easier or more comfortable to play.
The cut-away that allows access to the higher frets is a good example of a functional carving. By streamlining the edges of the instrument and thinning the body at the cut-away, I have improved access to the frets that normally would be difficult.
Another functional carving technique is called the tummy cut (see Figure 18), which removes wood where the player’s belly presses into the instrument. This allows the instrument to feel like it is wrapping around the performer, and removes wood to decrease the weight of the instrument. In addition, the top hip of the guitar is contoured to allow the arm to rest on the instrument without hitting a sharp corner of the instrument’s body. Both the tummy cut and the arm rest cut were pioneered by Fender with the sleek modern design of the Stratocaster.

Figure 21 An example of a tummy cut on the back of a guitar body [17]
An example of a tummy cut on the back of a guitar body

Figure 22 Front of the body of the baritone
The front of the baritone

Figure 23 Back view of the baritone’s body and heel
The back of the baritone's body and heel

Several guitars influenced the shape that I designed: the Parker Fly, Prince’s Cloud Guitar from the end of the 1980’s and the 000 Auditorium style guitars made by C.F. Martin. The shape of the Martin 000 has been a staple of American instruments for the past century. The smaller size body is very comfortable both to wear with a strap or to rest on a leg because of the depth and location of the so-called waist of the body. I used the bottom hips and the waist contour from the 000 guitar as the beginning of the shape of the baritone guitar (See Figure 24).

Figure 24 C.F. Martin’s 000 14 fret Guitar Body Shape used for the ‘hips’ of the baritone body. From the left to the right: Martin 000 [18], a 000 14-fret body mold [19], the borrowed shaped for the baritone.
000 body comparisons

Figure 25 The Parker Fly, probably the last major innovation in commercially available guitars
The Parker Fly

The contoured shape of the Parker Fly was also an inspiration for the body of the baritone. The Fly has a dramatically rounded arm rest which effectively shaves a lot of material off to lighten the instrument in addition to making it more comfortable to play. I also spread the tapered armrest across the entire top hip of the instrument to reduce weight and make playing the instrument more comfortable (See Figure 22).
Prince™s Cloud Guitar was another influence on the design of the body. This was the first guitar I had seen with an exaggerated top horn that moved the strap button towards the nut of the guitar. I suspect that this innovation would have made it easier for Prince, with his shorter arm length, to reach the lower positions on the neck. Prince was the first artist, that I was aware of, who had special guitars made for him to meet his needs both from an ergonomic and aesthetic point of view.

Figure 26 Prince’s Cloud Guitar at the Rock ‘n’ Roll Hall of Fame
Prince's Cloud Guitar

4.6 Pickup Types and Locations

There are a wide variety of pick-ups in use by manufacturers of baritones, with most instruments being targeted towards certain types of music. Instruments using single-coil lipstick pickups are targeted at the country-western and roots rock genre, while instruments with double coil pickups are targeted toward hard rock and metal. The traditional baritone sound used in spaghetti westerns, surf rock and country music comes from baritones equipped with single coil, twangy sounding pickups.
I chose to use a humbucking version of Gibson’s famous P-90 soap-bar pickups because I wanted the bright and growling tone of a single coil, but without the associated hum from a single coil P-90. Seymour Duncan carries a ‘stacked’ P-90 (Figure 28) that positions the second coil beneath the first so it is not visible and influences the sound only minimally. I placed the pickups on the body so that the pole-pieces of the neck pickup were beneath the 24th fret position and the bridge pickup was beneath the 36th fret position [20]. (See Figure 27)

Figure 28 Seymour Duncan P-90 Stack Pickups
Seymore Duncan P-90 Stack pickups

Figure 27 Baritone body design using fret locations as measurements for pickup placement
Rendering of baritone's body using fret locations to determine pickup locations

These two locations offer a much richer viewpoint to the nodes and anti-nodes of the harmonics of the string. The string vibrates the least at the nodes and vibrates the most at the anti-nodes. In addition, the location of the nodes and anti-nodes change as the player shortens the string length by fretting notes. Generally, pickups closer to the neck have a deeper sound and pickups near the bridge have a brighter sound. Gibson named the pickups, Rhythm and Lead, to suggest that the bridge pickup would be better for solos, while the rhythm pickup would be better for chords and accompaniment.

5 Conclusion

I created a new guitar design to improve on existing production baritone guitars and to correct problems with the instruments™ balance, rigidity, tone and ergonomics. The most significant innovation was to change the balance of the instrument by moving the bridge down the guitar to the tail of the instrument and ensuring that the strap button on the top horn of the body is above the 11th fret on the instrument. This change brings the first position on the instrument closer to the player and improves the ease of playing close to the nut.
The shape of the neck returns to the ‘V’ neck, which makes it easier to hold the instrument comfortably when playing open chords. As the neck gets closer to the body of the instrument, the back of the neck becomes flatter, making is easier to finger bar-chords.
The neck is laminated from 6 pieces of wood: a macassar ebony fingerboard, three thick layers of hard maple and two thin layers of purpleheart, in order to improve the sustain and tone of the instrument. The lamination improves the rigidity of the instrument and so it improves the length of time that the guitar vibrates after being plucked.
The pickup pole pieces fall beneath the 24th fret position and the 36th fret position, which are active harmonic locations. This improves the electric tone of the instrument. I will continue to make improvements to the guitar in hopes of creating a high-quality production instrument.

[14] “Guitar Neck Woods.” 2006. Warmoth Direct Guitars. 8 Dec. 2008 <>.

[15] “Body-Woods.” 2006. Warmoth Direct Guitars. 8 Dec. 2008 <>.

[16] “Back Contours.” 2006. Warmoth Direct Guitars. 13 Dec. 2008 <>.

[17] Works Cited
Allparts Licensed by Fender Stratocaster Body Sea Foam Green NEW! Digital image. Ray’s Custom Shop. 12 Dec. 2008 <>.

[18] Martin 000-28 Norman Blake Acoustic. Digital image. Fuller’s Vintage Guitar. 8 Dec. 2008 <>.

[19] Hall Jr., John F. Martin 000 14 fret building mold. Digital image. Blues Creek Guitars, Inc. 8 Dec. 2008 <>.

[20] Tillman, J. Donald. “Response Effects of Guitar Pickup Position and Width.” Electronic Music Articles. 17 Oct. 2002. Don Till. 11 Dec. 2008 <>.

8 Responses to “Designing a Baritone Guitar (Part III)”

  1. Jeff Says:

    I’m inspired!

    I’ll hold on to this info, and may try to find you again later… I’m going to break down and buy a Hellcat VI or Gretsch Jet Baritone tomorrow to use as a 6 string bass, but I really wanted a baritone to start with, when I only recentloy discovered their existance! I also never knew of the Fender Bass VI, or that the modern 6 string bass is different still, with a Lower B, like the Fender 5 string Jazz bass I did know about, but it has one string higher as well.

    I’d be tempted to go with a regular 6 string guitar form only moved to the lower B, like the common baritones. I just found out all I know in the last week or so. I play guitar and mostly bass and have been doing a combination by using my Strat knockoff with an octave pedal to create the effect of a guitar and a bass.

    What I intend to do now is play a 6 string Bass in E for most stuff, but then when I get, or possibly make a Baritone I’ll sometimes use it as a bass/guitar as well in B, by using the octave pedal. But simply having the added creative spark a baritone would add working with our guitarist’s Telecaster, tending toward some new harmonies and all, will be a great addition to my band’s sound. I don’t want to sound straight old surf, tic-tac country style or metal, but use elements of all in new song writing.

    I had decided to order the Gretsch tomorrow, but now that you bring up the weight issue I remember something else I read in a review, about it being a little heavy on the headstock end, not bad according to the reviewer, but it made me wonder if that would be an issu.

    The Hellcat VI looks like it’s a bit closer to what I’m used to, so i may buy that instead. Tonight I am making my final choice for this one instrument. I enjoyed reading your article, and how you are willing to help others but don’t want someone to rip you off and profit off your idea leaving you in the cold. I may ask for some help instead of buying the Chinese made Gretsch, but it will be that or the Korean made Schecter tomorrow, I don’t want to be patient about this as you were to build this beauty. I decidedly want a painted guitar, but this creation of yours is exquisite. I’d love to hear an MP3 sample or five.

  2. Hendrik Gideonse Says:

    Thanks for your awesome comments. To me the Gretsch didn’t feel very good, it somehow felt kind of small and congested. One thing that you may want to think about is finding a Fender 6, which is a shortscale 6 string bass tuned like a guitar, down an octave. I have started making five more baritones all with white ash bodies. I invested in having a computer cut template made to make the routing easier and more consistent. Good luck with the choice tonight!

  3. ron hyde Says:

    i enjoyed your ramblings on baritones and guitars in general/so what was the scale length /tuning and string gauges you finally went with?i made a 32scale 5string banjo to be tuned 1 octave lower than usual and had problems with string gauges/check out my website/under construction/later;ron

  4. Hendrik Gideonse Says:

    Thanks for the comment Ron! The scale of my guitar is 27.5 inches and is tuned down a 4th to B. It also works tuned down to A very well. String gauge is a hard thing to figure out. D’Addario has a pretty decent chart of string gauges with different scales.

    Also check out:
    which is a great string gauge calculator and also

    Good luck!


  5. dani Says:

    your guitars a very cool, i want to learn how to make guitar but i dont know how to i dont even got books or any one to to teach me how to. i want to make acoustic guitars first then go to electric guitars.
    if you can help me make guitars pleas do so thanks.

  6. Hendrik Gideonse Says:

    Hi Dani,
    The books that I used to learn how to make the guitars are the following:
    Martin Koch’s
    Building Electric Guitars

    Melvyn Hiscock’s
    Make Your Own Electric Guitar

    Dan Erlewine’s
    Guitar Player Repair Guide

    Other than reading the books, I already had some experience working with wood. With acoustic guitars, you need to learn how to bend the wood, which is the hardest part probably. If you have any other questions, feel free to respond here. Where are you from?


  7. Ethan Says:

    Hey Hedrik,
    i really like what you have built and i wanted to make an electric baritone myself so i would love to see the measurements you have for your design

  8. admin Says:

    Which measurements are you looking for? Many of the measurements are in the post.

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